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		<title>Observations on Web Site Stats and Ranks</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been looking around the web for a discussion of various ways of keeping and portraying web site statistics and also for page ranking information.  I&#8217;ve also had an opportunity to observe a few differences on my own sites and &#8230; <a href="http://ncs.hneufeld.com/2010/02/observations-on-web-site-stats-and-ranks/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve been looking around the web for a discussion of various ways of keeping and portraying web site statistics and also for page ranking information.  I&#8217;ve also had an opportunity to observe a few differences on my own sites and sites I manage.  This involves around thirty domains for several different companies including both of my own companies, <a href="http://hneufeld.com" target="_self">Neufeld Computer Services</a>, and <a href="http://energionpubs.com" target="_self">Energion Publications</a>.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m not going to present charts of statistics.  You can find some around the web. I am going to present my observations and a small amount of the data behind them.</p>
	<p>Ranking Systems</p>
	<p>I have used three ranking systems to follow my own sites and/or blogs:  <a href="http://technorati.com" target="_self">Technorati </a>authority, <a href="http://www.google.com" target="_self">Google Page Rank</a>, and <a href="http://www.alexa.com" target="_self">Alexa</a>.  Of these, Technorati seems to be primarily a way of comparing popularity of blogs, not by the number of readers, but by the number of links to the blog content.  I have found it to be relatively consistent and to give a decent idea of which direction your blog is going.</p>
	<p>Google page rank appears at the moment to be largely a prestige thing, but to the extent that I can observe, it seems to be fairly accurate.  This doesn&#8217;t mean there aren&#8217;t significant glitches, with lousy content moving to the top of the heap and good content lost at the bottom.  But if I look at my own book catalog, for example, books that I know have been reviewed online many times will have better page rank than books that have not received such attention.  My current understanding is that page rank doesn&#8217;t play much role in the placement of search results, but that could change.  I suspect that some of the same logic used for page rank <strong>does</strong> play such a role.</p>
	<p>Alexa is another matter, as its rank is based on visits to the site.  According to the Alexa web site, results aren&#8217;t reliable for sites that are not in the top 100,000.  I can&#8217;t test this directly, as none of my sites are in the top 100,000.  I do have a number that are in the 200,000 range, however, along with many that are less popular.</p>
	<p>A few weeks ago I decided to try an experiment with Alexa rankings on my least popular sites.  These were sites for individual books that are only linked from the book&#8217;s catalog page, and thus get only a subset of those who might be interested in that book.  Examples include <a href="http://lukestudy.com" target="_self">lukestudy.com</a>, <a href="http://liberalcharismatic.com" target="_self">liberalcharismatic.com</a>, <a href="http://speakforgod.info" target="_self">speakforgod.info</a>, and <a href="http://grieftolight.com" target="_self">grieftolight.com</a>.  All four of these sites were in the several million range when I started the experiment.</p>
	<p>What I did was visit them with a browser equipped with the Alexa toolbar once daily for a few weeks.  This was just a quick visit, long enough to allow the page to load.  According to Alexa, again, they count only one visit from the same IP each day, and they do have a factor for traffic without the toolbar, but visits by browsers equipped with the toolbar are factored in.</p>
	<p>If you check those sites you can see the results.  At one point all were under 1,000,000, a change that varied from -2,000,000 to -7,000,000 approximately.  A couple are now over 1,000,000, because the experiment is over.  What I found was that once I got into the 500,000 to 1,000,000 ranks, my own visits had little impact.  There are other ways to confuse the ranking system, but I suspect that the Alexa rule of only counting one visit per IP per day reduces the possibility for really gaming the system.</p>
	<p>While I do not recommend or approve of gaming the system, I do think it is valuable to know just how reliable a ranking system is.  If one can alter it just through one&#8217;s own single visits, then one can&#8217;t be sure just what the competition is doing.  It appears, however, that Alexa is quite correct&#8211;these lower traffic sites simply don&#8217;t get enough of a sample to make their statistics usable.  My take would be that below 1,000,000 Alexa stats have a shred of validity, below 500,000 they are often reliable, while only below 100,000 are they truly accurate, which accords reasonably well with what Alexa says about them.</p>
	<p>I was unable to push any site below 500,000, and the couple that I tried tend to remain in the same range even without my attention.  It appears that the ranking becomes progressively more reliable, as one would suspect, as one approaches 100,000.  The only surprise there was that a single daily visit from a browser equipped with the Alexa toolbar had that much impact.  (Note that I use a variety of browers with various toolbars to observe web sites.)</p>
	<p>Now for stats.  I have kept an eye on several sources of stats, including <a href="http://awstats.sourceforge.net/" target="_self">AWStats</a>, <a href="http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/" target="_self">Webalizer</a>, <a href="http://www.sitemeter.com" target="_self">SiteMeter</a>, wp-stats (for my <a href="http://www.wordpress.org" target="_self">wordpress</a> blogs/cms sites), and <a href="http://adsense.google.com" target="_self">Adsense</a> impressions.  I have observed for some time that many of these indicators do not agree on the popularity of a web site.  It is not simply a difference in the totals.  Sometimes one indicator will go up while another will go down.  I have had days on which a site shows more traffic via its stats program, while Adsense reports many less impressions.  SiteMeter and wp-stats don&#8217;t always agree, though they are very close.</p>
	<p>I found quite a number of claims on the web that Webalizer reports higher numbers than AWStats.  I have only been using the two side by side for a week, but my results differ a bit here.  For any blog or CMS based site, Webalizer shows higher page views and to a lesser extent higher visits.  In some cases the page views in Webalizer are more than double those in AWStats.  But for simple page based sites the numbers are closer, and I even found some in which Webalizer reported less page views than AWStats.  I don&#8217;t know why this is and I intend to keep observing.  The difference is about 25% overall for he set of sites I used, during the week in question 80,000 page views reported by AWStats and 100,000 reported by Webalizer for the same set.</p>
	<p>Because those methods that I would a priori regard as more accurate (wp-stats and SiteMeter) tend stronly to lower numbers, generally substantially lower than either AWStats or Webalizer, I am inclined to believe AWStats more than Webalizer.</p>
	<p>Note, of course, that <a href="http://www.sitemeter.com" target="_self">SiteMeter</a> requires that their graphic on your page be loaded, so quick passes  by your page might not count.  I&#8217;m not certain, but I&#8217;m guessing wp-stats might be subect to a similar problem.  Also, wp-stats is not going to count reads in an RSS reader, but then neither will anything else.  They might, however, count the RSS readers&#8217; loads of the feed from your site.</p>
	<p>None of this is terribly scientific, but I do feel that I&#8217;m getting a better handle on just what each of these methods is good for&#8211;and what it is not.<br />
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		<title>CNAME Record for Google/Feedburner MyBrand on IPower</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://feedburner.google.com">Google&#8217;s Feedburner</a> has several sets of instructions for various hosting platforms to set up your CNAME record in order to use MyBrand.  They also make it pretty clear that they don&#8217;t provide customer support and if you screw it up you&#8217;re on your own&#8211;for which I don&#8217;t blame them.</p>
	<p>They don&#8217;t provide instructions for doing this on <a href="http://www.ipower.com">IPower</a>.  (Note that I use IPower as a <a href="http://hneufeld.com">reseller for sites I support</a>, and this would be part of the service I provide to my resold sites.)</p>
	<p>So let me warn you first&#8211;if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing, don&#8217;t do this.  If these instructions turn on a light bulb, and you understand how it works, then go ahead at your own risk.  Read the large warnings from IPower that are in red as you start.</p>
	<p>In order to have a CNAME record you must set up a custom DNS record for the domain in question.  For example, I wanted the MyBrand URL to be feeds.energion.net.  Energion.net is not the main domain on this server&#8211;it points to a separate folder.  That doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
	<p>You choose the appropriate domain from the drop down box, then click &#8220;Go.&#8221;  When the page has been refreshed enter the accountsupport IP in the box with the little red star to the right (see picture below).  Then in the subdomains section enter your subdomain (feeds in this case), and the URL that Google provided you.  Finally, enter at least one MX record under the Mail section.  In my case, since I don&#8217;t use any e-mail addresses under energion.net, I simply used the suggested accountsupport e-mail.</p>
	<p>Save your zone file.  The system will fill in a couple of necessary things like a www subdomain with the proper numbers.</p>
	<p>It can take up to 48 hours to propagate through the system.  Mine actually only took about an hour before everything was running through the new URL.</p>
	<p><strong><em>Remember that if you have a substantially different setup than I do, this could change.  I take no responsibility whatsoever for this working on your account (always assuming I&#8217;m not the one doing it, which is another matter), because I don&#8217;t know what other complications you may have.</em></strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I <a href="http://ncs.hneufeld.com/?p=74">noted previously</a> the potential problems I expected with the servicer upgrade at <a href="http://www.ipower.com">iPower</a>.  That was based on creating a new site on their newer servers and looking at the differences in order to anticipate problems.</p>
	<p>There&#8217;s been a great deal of negative comment on this on the net, including in a comment on my previous post.  I have been somewhat less than satisfied with the communications I received on the issue.  Often when I do contact customer support my spam filtering gets blamed for missing e-mails, but then again I get quite a large percentage, so what is happening to the rest, and why are they not in my spam folder?</p>
	<p>Nonetheless, I have always managed to get what I needed from iPower in the end, even when I was complaining about just how.  In the case of the upgrade, however, I have now seen three accounts upgraded, and in all three cases, the difficulties were much smaller than expected.</p>
	<p>The iPower staff converted my php include/require links to the correct home directory in all cases as far as I can tell.  I have a couple of accounts that are substantially more complicated than these first three, so it will be interesting to see just how that goes.  They also correctly replaced all my connect strings.  Again these were relatively simple sites, but I had expected to have to make a few corrections myself.</p>
	<p>On two of the three sites I didn&#8217;t have to do anything except inform my clients of where to get their e-mail.  On the third I had created links so that one expert user at the client&#8217;s office could access the database through phpMyAdmin, and that link was broken.  Those were all of my difficulties.</p>
	<p>I will continue to keep up with this and public updates as I go through this process.<br />
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